Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
Powys-Lybbe Forbears - Person Sheet
NameSir John Rochford 
[68, First Series, Vol 17, p. 135, Hillary pedigree], [54, His own article], [125], [100, Douglas Richardson in December 2000 and July 2002], [56, Essex of 1558, pub Harleian 1878, Barrington p. 23], [56, Lincolns peds, pub Harleian 1903, Richford, Vol III, p. 829]
[68, First Series, Vol 17, p. 135, Hillary pedigree], [54, His own article], [125], [100, Douglas Richardson in December 2000 and July 2002], [56, Essex of 1558, pub Harleian 1878, Barrington p. 23], [56, Lincolns peds, pub Harleian 1903, Richford, Vol III, p. 829]Deathca Dec 1410
GeneralOf Boston, Lincs. Medieval writer. Sheriff of Lincs: 1392.
FatherSir Saher de Rochford
MotherJoan Hillary
Spouses
Marriageca 1375
Notes for Sir John Rochford
The Lincs pedigrees give his wife as Alice (d. c. 1410) and show that they had one son and one daughter.
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In the Staffs Collections Vol XVII (first series) there is a chart taken from Coram Rege, p. 135. This clearly shows that this John Rochford was son of Joan Hillary and had three daughters:
Margery m. Fratrice Tylney
Alice m. N.N.and had son John who had a dau Elizabeth Gybthorpe
Joan who had a dau. Margaret Roos.
The first of these three daughters is indeed the one already listed in this database. The issue is who is the N.N. whom I have listed and stated to have m. Sir John Holbech; on the face of it she is the second daughter Alice but this does not tie up with the presumed fact that Alice’s daughter was named Elizabeth Glybthorpe, though the last could be a married name. The further thing that does not tie up is that nowhere is John Barrington mentioned as the husband of an heir. I am beginning to think that it is wrong to make the Rochford wife of John Hillary into a daughter of this John Rochford...
Interestingly D Richardson asserts that John Rochfort had a fourth daughter, of unknown forename, who was the one that m. John Holbech (Dec 30 2007, s.g.m); none of his references give a clue to where he got this from, though it was possibly some land descent.
Dugdale in his Antiquities of Warwickshire, p. 454, gives Sir John Rochford precisely the three daughters above but is clear that Alice had married John Gibthorp and Joan had married Sir Robert Roos. He then says that the Manor of Stretton-super-Fosse went to Joan and Sir Robert Roos presented to the church in 5 H 6 and they had two daughters, Margaret, who m. Thomas de Pinchbeck and Alianore. Margaret m. (2) John Wittlebury.
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In the Staffs Collections Vol XVII (first series) there is a chart taken from Coram Rege, p. 135. This clearly shows that this John Rochford was son of Joan Hillary and had three daughters:
Margery m. Fratrice Tylney
Alice m. N.N.and had son John who had a dau Elizabeth Gybthorpe
Joan who had a dau. Margaret Roos.
The first of these three daughters is indeed the one already listed in this database. The issue is who is the N.N. whom I have listed and stated to have m. Sir John Holbech; on the face of it she is the second daughter Alice but this does not tie up with the presumed fact that Alice’s daughter was named Elizabeth Glybthorpe, though the last could be a married name. The further thing that does not tie up is that nowhere is John Barrington mentioned as the husband of an heir. I am beginning to think that it is wrong to make the Rochford wife of John Hillary into a daughter of this John Rochford...
Interestingly D Richardson asserts that John Rochfort had a fourth daughter, of unknown forename, who was the one that m. John Holbech (Dec 30 2007, s.g.m); none of his references give a clue to where he got this from, though it was possibly some land descent.
Dugdale in his Antiquities of Warwickshire, p. 454, gives Sir John Rochford precisely the three daughters above but is clear that Alice had married John Gibthorp and Joan had married Sir Robert Roos. He then says that the Manor of Stretton-super-Fosse went to Joan and Sir Robert Roos presented to the church in 5 H 6 and they had two daughters, Margaret, who m. Thomas de Pinchbeck and Alianore. Margaret m. (2) John Wittlebury.
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Arms Generally notes for Sir John Rochford
Quarterly or and gules, a border sable bezantée.
Armorial Blazon notes for Sir John Rochford
Quarterly or and gules, a border sable bezantée.
Blazon source notes for Sir John Rochford
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DNB Main notes for Sir John Rochford
Rochford, Sir John de fl. 1390-1410
Name: Rochford, Sir John de
Dates: fl. 1390-1410
Active Date: 1400
Gender: Male
Field of Interest: Literature and Writing
Occupation: Mediæval writer
Place of
Education: England, France, Italy
Sources: Rymer's Federa, original edition, vii. 544, 547, viii...
Contributor: A. F. P. [Albert Frederick Pollard]
Article
Rochford, Sir John de fl. 1390-1410, mediæval writer, was apparently son of Saer de Rochford of Holland in Lincolnshire, and, according to Pits, after receiving a good education in England, studied in France and Italy. In 1381 he served on a commission to inquire into certain disturbances at Boston (Cal. Patent Rolls, Richard II, ed. 1895, p. 421). Before 1386 he was knighted, and in that year was placed on commissions in the same county to raise sums lent to the king, and to supervise the purchase of arms and horses. In the following year he was sworn to support the lords appellants. On 26 Sept. 1405 he was summoned to meet Henry IV at Coventry, and accompany him on his expedition to Wales. But his interests lay chiefly in literary work. In 1406 he completed his ‘Notabilia extracta per Johannem de Rochefort, militem, de viginti uno libris Flavii Josephi antiquitatis Judaice;’ it is extant in All Souls' College MS. xxxvii. ff. 206 et seqq. He also compiled a ‘Tabula super Flores Storiarum facta per Johannem Rochefort, militem, distincta per folia,’ contained in All Souls' College MS. xxxvii. ff. 157 et seqq. It was also extant, with an ‘Extractum Chronicarum Cestrensis Ecclesiæ per Johannem Rocheford, a Christo nato ad annum 1410,’ in Cotton MS. Vitellius D. xii. 1, which is now lost. The ‘Tabula’ is merely an index of the ‘Flores Historiarum’ of Matthew of Westminster [q.v.], the authorship of which has been erroneously ascribed to Rochford. Pits also attributes to Rochford ‘Ex Ranulphi Chronico librum unum,’ and says that he translated many works, but he does not specify them.
Sources
Rymer's Federa, original edition, vii. 544, 547, viii. 413; Rolls of Parl. iii. 401 a; Hardy's Descr. Cat. of Materials, iii. 316; Matthew of Westminster's Flores Hist. (ed. Luard, in the Rolls Ser.), Pref. pp. xxix, xxx, xlii; Bale's Script. vii. 4; Pits, ed. 1619, p. 581; Fabricius's Bibl. Med. Ævi Latinitatis, iv. 363; Oudin's Comment. de Script. iii. 2227; Thomas James's Ecloga Oxonio-Cantabr. 1600, p. 45; Vossius's Hist. Lat. ed. 1651, pp. 545-6; Tanner's Bibl. Brit.-Hib.; Coxe's Cat. MSS. in Coll. Aulisque Oxon.; Chevalier's Répertoire.
Contributor: A. F. P.
published 1897
Name: Rochford, Sir John de
Dates: fl. 1390-1410
Active Date: 1400
Gender: Male
Field of Interest: Literature and Writing
Occupation: Mediæval writer
Place of
Education: England, France, Italy
Sources: Rymer's Federa, original edition, vii. 544, 547, viii...
Contributor: A. F. P. [Albert Frederick Pollard]
Article
Rochford, Sir John de fl. 1390-1410, mediæval writer, was apparently son of Saer de Rochford of Holland in Lincolnshire, and, according to Pits, after receiving a good education in England, studied in France and Italy. In 1381 he served on a commission to inquire into certain disturbances at Boston (Cal. Patent Rolls, Richard II, ed. 1895, p. 421). Before 1386 he was knighted, and in that year was placed on commissions in the same county to raise sums lent to the king, and to supervise the purchase of arms and horses. In the following year he was sworn to support the lords appellants. On 26 Sept. 1405 he was summoned to meet Henry IV at Coventry, and accompany him on his expedition to Wales. But his interests lay chiefly in literary work. In 1406 he completed his ‘Notabilia extracta per Johannem de Rochefort, militem, de viginti uno libris Flavii Josephi antiquitatis Judaice;’ it is extant in All Souls' College MS. xxxvii. ff. 206 et seqq. He also compiled a ‘Tabula super Flores Storiarum facta per Johannem Rochefort, militem, distincta per folia,’ contained in All Souls' College MS. xxxvii. ff. 157 et seqq. It was also extant, with an ‘Extractum Chronicarum Cestrensis Ecclesiæ per Johannem Rocheford, a Christo nato ad annum 1410,’ in Cotton MS. Vitellius D. xii. 1, which is now lost. The ‘Tabula’ is merely an index of the ‘Flores Historiarum’ of Matthew of Westminster [q.v.], the authorship of which has been erroneously ascribed to Rochford. Pits also attributes to Rochford ‘Ex Ranulphi Chronico librum unum,’ and says that he translated many works, but he does not specify them.
Sources
Rymer's Federa, original edition, vii. 544, 547, viii. 413; Rolls of Parl. iii. 401 a; Hardy's Descr. Cat. of Materials, iii. 316; Matthew of Westminster's Flores Hist. (ed. Luard, in the Rolls Ser.), Pref. pp. xxix, xxx, xlii; Bale's Script. vii. 4; Pits, ed. 1619, p. 581; Fabricius's Bibl. Med. Ævi Latinitatis, iv. 363; Oudin's Comment. de Script. iii. 2227; Thomas James's Ecloga Oxonio-Cantabr. 1600, p. 45; Vossius's Hist. Lat. ed. 1651, pp. 545-6; Tanner's Bibl. Brit.-Hib.; Coxe's Cat. MSS. in Coll. Aulisque Oxon.; Chevalier's Répertoire.
Contributor: A. F. P.
published 1897