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NameJohn de Sanford 
[100, Rosie Bevan, “Basset and Sandford”, 10 Sep 2005]
[100, Rosie Bevan, “Basset and Sandford”, 10 Sep 2005]Notes for John de Sanford
Rosie Bevan gave his descendants as follows:
From: "Rosie Bevan" <r,,,@paradise.net.nz>
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Subject: Re: Basset and Sandford (was Re: Trusted Sources)
Date: 10 Sep 2005 00:00:33 -0700
Todd A. Farmerie wrote:
> John P. Ravilious wrote:
>
> > II. 'Chigwell: Manors', A History of the County of Essex: Volume 4:
> > Ongar Hundred (1956), pp. 24-32.
> > URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=15539
> >
> > In 1066 the manor of WOOLSTON was held by Earl Harold. It was then
> > taken by King William and in 1086 was held by him in demesne. (Footnote
> > 87) During the 12th century the manor was granted to the Sanford family
> > to hold in serjeanty by virtue of the office of chamberlain to the
> > queen. (Footnote 88) A John de Sanford held the manor in 1210-12
> > (Footnote 89) and Cecily de Sanford in 1219. (Footnote 90)
>
> Any idea who Cecily might be? (perhaps widow of Sir John, the first
> witness of the Basset/Sandford document of the other day, and probable
> eldest surviving son of Sir John and Alice)
>
> taf
Cecily, the wife of John de Sanford senior, was the daughter of Adam de
Sewardstone. In 1223 she was called to answer accusations of waste in
Essex which she held of the inheritance of John de Sanford (the
younger). She married Matthew Maunsell after her husband John's
death.[Bracton's Note Book, no.1617].
In 1240 Gilbert de Sanford, son of John junior, unsuccessfully claimed
the vill of Sewardstone which had been given by Henry II to Waltham
abbey around 1178 as part of its refoundation dower. Gilbert said that
it rightly belonged to his grandmother Cecilia who was then under age
and a royal ward and heir to her father Adam. In 1278 Gilbert's
daughter and heir, Alice, then countess of Oxford again tried to
establish a claim to Sewardstone, but was unsuccesful.[Rosalind
Ransford, The Early Charters of Waltham Abbey, 1062-1230 (Boydell,
1989) nos. 26, 287]
This would give us
John de Sanford=Cecily de Sewardstone
|
John de Sanford=Alice Basset
|
Gilbert de Sanford=Loretta la Zouche
|
Alice de Sanford=Robert de Vere
The name Sanford is evidently derived from Stamford Hill.
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From: "Rosie Bevan" <r,,,@paradise.net.nz>
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Subject: Re: Basset and Sandford (was Re: Trusted Sources)
Date: 10 Sep 2005 00:00:33 -0700
Todd A. Farmerie wrote:
> John P. Ravilious wrote:
>
> > II. 'Chigwell: Manors', A History of the County of Essex: Volume 4:
> > Ongar Hundred (1956), pp. 24-32.
> > URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=15539
> >
> > In 1066 the manor of WOOLSTON was held by Earl Harold. It was then
> > taken by King William and in 1086 was held by him in demesne. (Footnote
> > 87) During the 12th century the manor was granted to the Sanford family
> > to hold in serjeanty by virtue of the office of chamberlain to the
> > queen. (Footnote 88) A John de Sanford held the manor in 1210-12
> > (Footnote 89) and Cecily de Sanford in 1219. (Footnote 90)
>
> Any idea who Cecily might be? (perhaps widow of Sir John, the first
> witness of the Basset/Sandford document of the other day, and probable
> eldest surviving son of Sir John and Alice)
>
> taf
Cecily, the wife of John de Sanford senior, was the daughter of Adam de
Sewardstone. In 1223 she was called to answer accusations of waste in
Essex which she held of the inheritance of John de Sanford (the
younger). She married Matthew Maunsell after her husband John's
death.[Bracton's Note Book, no.1617].
In 1240 Gilbert de Sanford, son of John junior, unsuccessfully claimed
the vill of Sewardstone which had been given by Henry II to Waltham
abbey around 1178 as part of its refoundation dower. Gilbert said that
it rightly belonged to his grandmother Cecilia who was then under age
and a royal ward and heir to her father Adam. In 1278 Gilbert's
daughter and heir, Alice, then countess of Oxford again tried to
establish a claim to Sewardstone, but was unsuccesful.[Rosalind
Ransford, The Early Charters of Waltham Abbey, 1062-1230 (Boydell,
1989) nos. 26, 287]
This would give us
John de Sanford=Cecily de Sewardstone
|
John de Sanford=Alice Basset
|
Gilbert de Sanford=Loretta la Zouche
|
Alice de Sanford=Robert de Vere
The name Sanford is evidently derived from Stamford Hill.
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